Comments on: Is Chivalry P.C.? http://www.mytrevor.com/blog/archives/2004/12/01/9/ Thoughts of Trevor Iwaszuk. Fri, 15 Apr 2011 18:03:14 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: CA http://www.mytrevor.com/blog/archives/2004/12/01/9/comment-page-1/#comment-86 CA Fri, 03 Dec 2004 21:19:57 +0000 http://www.mytrevor.com/blog/archives/2004/12/01/9/#comment-86 Ryan does have a good point about the difference in values between generations - I would have thought that someone not even 15 years older than myself would have been fully cognizant of the feminism of the last forty years - but then again, even my father, who's 19 years older than I am - still displays a few chauvanistic tendancies every now and then. It might just be one of those things that you have to take on a case-by-case basis, regarding people and thier attitudes. Ryan does have a good point about the difference in values between generations – I would have thought that someone not even 15 years older than myself would have been fully cognizant of the feminism of the last forty years – but then again, even my father, who’s 19 years older than I am – still displays a few chauvanistic tendancies every now and then. It might just be one of those things that you have to take on a case-by-case basis, regarding people and thier attitudes.

]]> By: david http://www.mytrevor.com/blog/archives/2004/12/01/9/comment-page-1/#comment-85 david Fri, 03 Dec 2004 21:19:13 +0000 http://www.mytrevor.com/blog/archives/2004/12/01/9/#comment-85 heh, i just pretend i'm asleep on the bus and <em>nobody</em> gets a seat offered by me. muahahahahaha heh, i just pretend i’m asleep on the bus and nobody gets a seat offered by me. muahahahahaha

]]> By: Kevin http://www.mytrevor.com/blog/archives/2004/12/01/9/comment-page-1/#comment-84 Kevin Thu, 02 Dec 2004 22:34:41 +0000 http://www.mytrevor.com/blog/archives/2004/12/01/9/#comment-84 I suppose we could just offer them a seat on our laps... then everyone could sit down. I suppose we could just offer them a seat on our laps… then everyone could sit down.

]]> By: Ryan http://www.mytrevor.com/blog/archives/2004/12/01/9/comment-page-1/#comment-83 Ryan Thu, 02 Dec 2004 20:19:49 +0000 http://www.mytrevor.com/blog/archives/2004/12/01/9/#comment-83 Like Kevin said, this is a good topic. I mean, women are constantly fighting for equal rights in all aspects of life, but there are some things that they are not willing to give up I guess. I see this all as a trade off. It sounds kind of harsh, I know. But I won't give up my seat for a woman unless I think she is really in need, like CA pointed out above. Other than that, if you want to be like me, stand with me. However, in your case I think it is just a difference in values. A 50 y/o man has much different values than you and I. Like Kevin said, this is a good topic. I mean, women are constantly fighting for equal rights in all aspects of life, but there are some things that they are not willing to give up I guess. I see this all as a trade off. It sounds kind of harsh, I know. But I won’t give up my seat for a woman unless I think she is really in need, like CA pointed out above. Other than that, if you want to be like me, stand with me.

However, in your case I think it is just a difference in values. A 50 y/o man has much different values than you and I.

]]> By: ca http://www.mytrevor.com/blog/archives/2004/12/01/9/comment-page-1/#comment-82 ca Thu, 02 Dec 2004 19:10:17 +0000 http://www.mytrevor.com/blog/archives/2004/12/01/9/#comment-82 Being the thoroughly modern 21st century male that I am, I see nothing wrong with offering your seat to someone who is elderly, infirm, disabled or clearly overburdened. What I do see a problem with is any woman insisting that I adhere to ancient chivelrous codes - which were clearly designed to paint women as subordinate beings - and still accept equal interaction. Sorry, but if you want the "benefits" of such behavior, be ready to accept the attendant attitudes of such. Most modern feminists would agree with this assesment, I think, and would want to see the behavor itself worked out of our society. Along those lines, I wonder what would the reaction have been had the woman not been a shapely 20 year old, but rather a frumpy 40 year old , or a not-so-peppy 30 year old? Being the thoroughly modern 21st century male that I am, I see nothing wrong with offering your seat to someone who is elderly, infirm, disabled or clearly overburdened. What I do see a problem with is any woman insisting that I adhere to ancient chivelrous codes – which were clearly designed to paint women as subordinate beings – and still accept equal interaction. Sorry, but if you want the “benefits” of such behavior, be ready to accept the attendant attitudes of such. Most modern feminists would agree with this assesment, I think, and would want to see the behavor itself worked out of our society.
Along those lines, I wonder what would the reaction have been had the woman not been a shapely 20 year old, but rather a frumpy 40 year old , or a not-so-peppy 30 year old?

]]> By: Kevin http://www.mytrevor.com/blog/archives/2004/12/01/9/comment-page-1/#comment-81 Kevin Thu, 02 Dec 2004 08:49:53 +0000 http://www.mytrevor.com/blog/archives/2004/12/01/9/#comment-81 Trevor, you bring up an interesting topic. On one hand you want to be polite and respectful of those around you, and on the other hand you don't want to accidently offend someone. I suppose all you can do is have the best intensions in mind and take it from there. Trevor, you bring up an interesting topic. On one hand you want to be polite and respectful of those around you, and on the other hand you don’t want to accidently offend someone. I suppose all you can do is have the best intensions in mind and take it from there.

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